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Hello, I hope I am not to only one frustrated by iTunes. I have an external hard drive that I would like to store my music on. I DO NOT want to store music on my local internal hard drive as it's not big enough. I have been able to successfully have ALL MY MUSIC on the external drive that was connected to computer A. However, when I  connect my hard drive another computer (computer B), authorize it, I can only go to Preferences/Advanced and change the location of the ITUNES MEDIA folder, but that does not make my files available in the ITUNES LIBRARY. When I try to sync, it warns that it will replace all of the files on my external media library with the songs from the itunes Music folder. I want to do the opposite.

Sorry for the caps, but I can't understand this...

How can I simply get my songs - that I bought and own - that are on my external drive to show up in iTunes???  

asked 12/13/2011 03:55

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19 Answers:
1) Calm down. This is common.

2) PC or Mac?
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jason1178

1,2,3...10. Ok calm now...

It's a PC.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 11:59:33

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:)

Did you follow the instructions exactly as outlined here?

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1364

Using the checkbox to keep the Media folder organized and then doing the Consolidation step are crucial.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:11:21

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Thanks for responding. Yes I did, but that won't work because the only location I can change it to, does not have the space. So in other words, I can't change the location of the media folder to store files locally because there's not enough room.\ on my C: drive.

I simply want iTunes to use my Media folder as the Music folder. Is that possible?
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:12:44

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Yes, because they are the same folder (at least in current versions).

The issue might be the multiple computers.  Does computer A recognize the external library correctly?
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:22:40

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Yes. Computer A does see the external drive, but it might be because I choose to "copy files to media libray" whenever I import a CD. So I think it has a copy of all music locally AND on the external drive.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:25:22

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So instead of physically moving the drive from computer to computer (which will trigger the warning) why not use Home Sharing to create a combination of the two libraries (assuming they are different). AFAIK, trying to manually combine two libraries with different authorizations would be a headache because of the DRM but Home Sharing obliterates the need for it.

Unless I'm missing something about the situation?
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:34:48

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My goal is to use my external drive as the library for ALL computers. There are 2 components which confuses the hell out of me:

1. the iTunes music library
2. the iTunes media library

In iTunes you can change the location of the media library in Preferences, but that does nothing to add them to the music library.

It's like - what's the purpose of the media library if you can use anything on it???
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answered 2011-12-13 at 12:44:02

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>> My goal is to use my external drive as the library for ALL computers.

Which you can do, but each computer has to have a separate library on the drive.  Are you trying to combine stuff into a single location?
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answered 2011-12-13 at 13:59:06

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>> Are you trying to combine stuff into a single location?
No, because I already have everything in 1 location - my external drive. I guess you could say the the external drive IS the single location.

So if the computer has to have a separate MUSIC library on the C: drive (which apparently you can't change the location), and my music on my external drive in the MEDIA library won't fit on the C: drive, AND can't be moved or turned into the MUSIC library - it looks like I'm out of luck.

Which makes me wonder why this has to be such mess? Does this really mean that I have to go back to using an MP3 player so I can actually manage my music and where I play it? GEESH! I gues I don't want to rant here. I really appreciate your help!

But if i can't simply put ALL my legally purchased music on my external drive, and connect it to 2 different authorized computers, and have it show up in the iTunes music library on both - then what's the point?

Thanks for your help.

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answered 2011-12-13 at 14:23:58

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Thanks!
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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:02:37

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>> But if i can't simply put ALL my legally purchased music on my external drive, and connect it to 2 different authorized computers, and
>> have it show up in the iTunes music library on both - then what's the point?

You can, but if you want to use Apple devices you have to play by Apple rules.  So if all the music is under one account, you can move that library to the external drive for that account via the steps in the first link I posted.  All other iTunes instances would have to access via Home Sharing and from there could create their own copies of the music.  If you try to do it in any other way you're going to have some issues with authorization (which you are seeing).


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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:05:07

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@whosbetterthanme, I have been there man.  I loathe iTunes/Apple (I type this while listening to iTunes on my iPhone).  They play dirty and trying to share music between my laptop, computer and wife's laptop is a nightmare.  Glad jason1178 got you squared away.  Just wanted to let you know I've been there and you aren't alone.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:07:55

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>> They play dirty

To be fair, they are fairly up front about this stuff if you bother to look first.  But they do tend to try and lock you down.

>> trying to share music between my laptop, computer and wife's laptop is a nightmare.

Again, Home Sharing is the key.  My wife and I can swap music, books, movies, apps, whatever.  My son and I have the same authorization on our iPads so I can control what apps and stuff are on his device and keep it separate from mine.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:20:46

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:-) Alright man, same team here, same team.  Yes, they are upfront and I agreed to it by purchasing products from them.  I get it.  I do.  Not trying to hijack this thread/question by making this into a debate about Apple being or not being dirty with the way they play.  I was just telling the OP that I share his frustrations.  
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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:23:05

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LOL.

No, I'm not being critical of you :)  Besides, question has an answer and this adds additional information which can't hurt, right?

I agree that moving from Winamp to iTunes was sort of a system shock for me since I was used to just moving stuff wherever I wanted it and letting Winamp figure it out from there.  

The biggest problem I see IRL are with people who just "want it to work" vis-a-vis sharing media but fail to understand that Apple really only gives you two ways to do it:

1) Have one massive iTunes library with multiple devices synching to it

2) Have multiple libraries via Home Sharing with each library copying the desired shared media to its own library.  

As you can probably imagine, neither of those is a wonderful solution.  With the one library to rule them all situation, anyone can delete a song and have it disappear on next sync from all devices.  In the fractured situation, you end up with multiple copies of the same media and thus a lot of wasted disk space.
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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:27:04

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Thanks all for the discussion! Yes the primary issue with me is that I get the whole DRM thing and trying to protect the artists from piracy etc. But what about me, who has gone out and purchased a CD? I can take that CD and play in my car, in my house, on my computer, at work etc. It's digital music, on a digital medium that is portable. Why should I not have the same capability with my iTunes library?

But I guess you said it best that you have to play by Apple rules. Well, not any more for me. The iPod is going on eBay, and I'll get some software to turn my songs into MP3s, and once again enjoy the freedom that once was when you could record your albums so you could enjoy them wherever you want.

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answered 2011-12-13 at 15:40:44

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>> and I'll get some software to turn my songs into MP3s

Did you rip everything to AAC?  That might be the problem there too :)

iTunes allows a rip to MP3 which removes some of the more obnoxious DRM restrictions.  You still need to do the sharing as I describe it above, though.
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answered 2011-12-14 at 04:35:12

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Just going back to what I used to do will simplify my life. I just want to store my music on 1 thing (hard drive or whatever - and not the cloud) and plug it into whatever computer I choose, and listen and/or burn cd's so that I can play music in places where my iPod or mp3 player won't work like on my old stereo system. I adopted the iTunes/iPod thing in the beginning, but as soon as I wanted to be more mobile the restrictions are too much. So Apple off, and simplicity back ON.
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answered 2011-12-14 at 08:45:30

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