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Hello,

I have bought a new domain with VPS and dedicated IP address. the domain is not blacklisted anywhere... whenever I send to hotmail accounts, it goes to Junk folder.

I have activated the SPF and DomainKeys on my website...

What can I do to avoid being flagged as spam ??

asked 11/28/2011 04:28

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KETTANEH ♦♦


13 Answers:
this is my SPF settings
v=spf1 a mx ip4:50.116.104.50 -all
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answered

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KETTANEH

Hi, can you post the header from the message classified as junk in hotmail, you can leave out the actual email addresses.
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answered 2011-11-29 at 00:38:07

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JorisFRST

Thanks for the reply


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x-store-info:4r51+eLowCe79NzwdU2kRyU+pBy2R9QCy8qHgmJLLDxrSyeieH0HodWrc9mthhf52KtDLa7m/6waBcN+xDig4UlNCEMH53LTEuI6k/HdMREdoDmTmjEAhQ==

Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=temperror (sender IP is 50.116.104.50) header.from=media@q8y-media.com; dkim=none header.d=q8y-media.com; x-hmca=none

X-Message-Status: n:0:n

X-SID-PRA: media@q8y-media.com

X-DKIM-Result: None

X-AUTH-Result: NONE

X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MjtHRD0yO1NDTD00

X-Message-Info: 2etWe3f/w1emhdx/aseFKC5kDJkD64xE0FLDuLJ5kVXPT/iR5VuID2sJeiR81hvCmIKzZM0FrbPlFVOJNpKJOz9azYaJrXSHT8DVCkX+tDTLpjCedfgHg+TaRMLCmSdtbu+IZiIGNXM=

Received: from q8y.q8y-media.com ([50.116.104.50]) by BAY0-MC1-F16.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900);

       Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:21:12 -0800

DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=q8y-media.com;

      h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent;

      b=I4pzK4OEJKqj43UsR7GhgoMBp/qmouaFhJhi3gzQc6T+YGepnlIW7aoL5i5jbZl8FjN+hHXdKV1MFZ0ouGGh4B+9I/IvXS6Rek+M0B0+6faGrW9YZTd/vKZhWsF3dHgU;

Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:43979 helo=localhost)

      by q8y.q8y-media.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69)

      (envelope-from <media@q8y-media.com>)

      id 1RVIwC-0005G8-Ml

      for kett_mail@hotmail.com; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:21:12 -0600

Received: from 195.39.137.x ([195.39.137.x]) by q8y-media.com (Horde

 Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:21:12 -0600

Message-ID: <20111129022112.79234nt165f1p8u0@q8y-media.com>

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:21:12 -0600

From: media@q8y-media.com

To: kett_mail@hotmail.com

Subject: cyberoam

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain;

 charset=ISO-8859-1;

 DelSp="Yes";

 format="flowed"

Content-Disposition: inline

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9)

X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report

X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - q8y.q8y-media.com

X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com

X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]

X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - q8y-media.com

Return-Path: media@q8y-media.com

X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2011 08:21:12.0729 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB180890:01CCAE6F]



Hii man .. this is a test email from me :)


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I have noticed that it is sent from q8y.q8y-media.com instead of q8y-media.com ... is it normal ?
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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:12:11

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KETTANEH

I think this is your case

it seems you use login /authintication when you connected to hotmail smtp.
if yes, then you entered a session as client-server not server-server, so in this case hotmail will verify authinticated user email with <From> Field, and if no macth apam classification is set.

but when you access it without authintication then it will check reverse dns, and IP block list
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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:18:00

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fryezz

Domainkeys should have done the trick.

Maybe this IP address was used to spam hotmail users before, hotmail doesn't only look at current blacklists.
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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:27:12

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JorisFRST

I think this post might get you on the right track :

http://www.webforefront.com/archives/2007/11/getting_through.html
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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:38:24

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JorisFRST

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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:41:30

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JorisFRST

fryezz:

I didn't get your point clearly ... I have sent directly from the webmail of the domain as well as using a client to send through my SMTP... both cases went to junk

JorisFRST:
Thanks a lot for your corporation .. .I will read the articles.


but a question.. why it is showing q8y.q8y-media.com in some places instead of q8y-media.com ??

what about my SPF setting ?? is it correct/best practice ?
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answered 2011-11-29 at 01:42:21

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KETTANEH

Hi,

it's just doing a reverse DNS lookup of your IP address.

q8y.q8y-media.com has the same IP, it's probably the first reply it got.
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answered 2011-11-29 at 02:40:12

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JorisFRST

does it affect on spam filters ?? is it okay ?
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answered 2011-11-29 at 02:47:30

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KETTANEH

Hotmail is checking 2 things -- Sender ID and DKIM -- neither of which you have.

Instead of DomainKeys, you should be signing with DKIM.  Doing so will greatly increase your chances of landing in the inbox.

Your SPF record is syntactically correct but more complex than it needs to be.  If 50.116.104.50 is your only sending IP, then your record only needs to be:
1:
"v=spf1 ip4:50.116.104.50 -all"


Once you start signing with DKIM I suggest changing -all to ~all.  If you do not care about people being able to forward mails from sent from your domain, then you can leave it with -all.
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answered 2011-11-29 at 03:06:18

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Papertrip

thanks
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answered 2011-11-29 at 10:26:41

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KETTANEH

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